With Xango only since January of 2004, he hit Premiere this month. “One residual dollar,” he says, “is worth two or three normal dollars.” The money just keeps coming in for Jason and that’s how he’s developing the real lifestyle and that inspires him— and, his people.
I didn’t want to do it, but I knew I had to do it. I had expected I could tear holes in it. I thought that I could nail it down as something that wouldn’t work. The minute he showed it to me it made sense that it would work.
Jason, you know that this interview was originally scheduled with Jim Bartlett. I gave Jim the option of putting one of his people forward in the spotlight, instead of himself and he picked you! He didn’t even think about it. How does that land on you? Jim’s a really special guy. I was told years ago by my father that if I can make it to the end of my life and I can count my real friends on one hand, I’ve had a successful one. Jim’s one of those special people in my life. NULL What is it that makes him special for you? I guess we can relate to each other. I really like Jim’s attitude toward life and I think he’s a fantastic network marketer. He sincerely cares about people and finding people like that in any industry is rare. One of the reasons he selected you is because you helped him make a dream come true. Can you tell us about that? Yes, I’m a great believer in, “There’s no such thing as a lazy man, just an uninspired one.” And so, I always try to focus on finding out what blows peoples hair back and what really turns them on.
I tend to spend more time talking about people’s dreams and goals than techniques and business discussions.
I remember having a lengthy discussion with Jim one day, and he was telling me of how he dreamt of flying this P51 and I said to him, “What’s a P51?” and he then went into a half-hour conversation about the P51, so I really knew that this was a big burn for him. I asked him to send me some pictures of what a P51 looks like, I was genuinely interested, and so he sent me some pictures. I found one that was just an action shot, one in mid-flight, and with my meager graphical skills, I cut and pasted his face onto the face of the pilot so it truly looked like Jim flying this thing. I sent it back to him via email and he turned it into his wallpaper on his PC so everyday when he was working his business he was looking at himself flying this P51 and that dream came true. Yes, it just recently did— and he’s got the DVD’s to prove it. He sent me some beautiful photographs. I’ve put a little story book together on my website choices411.com/dreamp51.html Dreams do come true! How long have you been with Xango, Jason, and how are you doing? I’ve been involved since January 2004. We’re doing great! We hit Premiere this month. Is this your first network marketing experience? It’s my first international experience. I got involved with Amway, like most people did, back in the very early 90’s. I had a friend who said he wanted to show me the Amway business and because he was a friend I thought I’d let him but I wasn’t interested. He showed me network marketing for the first time and you know, he drew the circles out and I just slumped in my chair when he finished his presentation and he said to me, “Why do you look so depressed?” and I said,
“Well, I never realized it was going to be this good. It looks like I’m going to have to do it.” I wasn’t real happy about that but it just made so much sense.
Why the resistance? It made so much sense but you were unhappy about it… why? [Laughing] Because I was an intelligent businessman! So I didn’t want to do it, but I knew I had to do it. I had expected I could tear holes in it. I thought that I could nail it down as something that wouldn’t work. The minute he showed it to me it made sense that it would work. So, what happened? What happened was I got involved and we went what was called ‘Direct’ then in about 11 months. We sponsored a few hundred people and it was back when it was all done with local meetings and belly to belly, there was no Internet. I sort of semi-retired and that is when I got involved in traditional business again and drifted away from network marketing. What brought you back? We had a couple of traditional businesses which were getting up off the ground in the United States and we had sold up everything and were about to move to the United States and that’s when 9/11 hit. My business buyers got wiped out, overnight, when 9/11 hit. We’d invested hundreds of thousands of dollars in these businesses and it was all over. So, I had to start over again and with a minimum of capital. Can you explain to me why or how 9/11 wiped out your businesses? Well, one of the businesses we had was ring tones and software games for cell phones with one of the largest Teleco’s in the United States. When 9/11 hit, my business partners were actually onboard the last flight to land in LAX on 9/11/2001. All of the Teleco’s management who had arrived in southern California to sign up on the deal were trying to get home. It was a very scary time. We had another business partner flying in from Korea and they got diverted to Vancouver and so we just couldn’t bring everyone together to sign off on the deal. Then the Teleco’s management was not allowed to fly for another 12 months and in the meantime the whole deal had gone sour. So, we were kind of ruined, but every time I felt depressed about it I just pictured a five-year-old with a fireman’s hat on and it really put it all back into perspective, you know? How did you get back involved with network marketing? Well, one thing led to another and we had to get back into business with a minimum of capital, and we had some experience on the Internet so we found our way into Lifeforce International. We were involved in an era where a lot of bulk email was being used and things like that, so we had some reasonable success.
But of course, network marketing is a people business and when you’re just using bulk email you just can’t touch all the people in the way you need to, you can’t touch their lives and nothing stays. There’s no stability in that sort of thing.
The business wasn’t that successful long term and it eventually collapsed but that was where I met Jim Bartlett. So Jim and his partner Glenn were involved with Lifeforce and you met them there? Yes, that’s where I met them. I always traveled to conventions. Even though I’m in Australia I always go, it doesn’t matter where they are they are that important. So, I went to convention in San Diego and that’s where I met Jim and Glenn and formed a friendship. When they got involved with Xango, they shared it with me and it was a no-brainer. You jumped in right away? Yes! Actually, I think it was providence, too. In December 2003, my middle boy, Adam, was diagnosed with autism and it was about two weeks after that that Jim and Glenn contacted me about Xango. I sort of said to them at the time that I was a little busy, because I didn’t know what autism was and neither did my wife. But our initial investigation showed us that autism, especially with our son, was more of a digestive issue and inflammation played a role. So, when Jim told me that Xango was good for inflammation and digestive issues, I said, “Well, send me a couple cases and I’ll see how it goes.” For the first three months that you have a child diagnosed with a special condition you’re really all alone, because it takes three to four months to see a specialist. So, we only had Xango and our wits for the first few months. We noticed a huge change in our little boys’ behavior. We had a lit
tle boy who had hardly any vocabulary, was anti-social, no eye contact and after a couple of weeks he was becoming more social, trying to talk more and before— we were losing him mentally as he was drifting off into his own world with autism and we noticed he was starting to come back. There have been a lot of other interventions in the last 20 months. Other therapies, actually that we’ve given and tried to help our little boy, but when we asked the pediatrician who had diagnosed the autism what the future held for our little boy he had said, “You basically have a retarded son, Mr. Haks, who will be dependant on you for the rest of his life and he’ll have trouble tying his own shoe laces.”
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